# Jonno Duniam on guilt and relief about quitting politics

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Podcast: [Politics with Michelle Grattan](https://stenobird.com/podcast/politics-with-michelle-grattan-590458)
Published: 2026-06-18T19:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://theconversation.com/au/podcasts/politics-with-michelle-grattan
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## Resource

The departing Liberal frontbencher also said it's 'mad' to be talking about doing deals with One Nation so far from an election. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode.

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