# Barnaby Joyce on getting on with Pauline Hanson and One Nation's rise

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Podcast: [Politics with Michelle Grattan](https://stenobird.com/podcast/politics-with-michelle-grattan-590458)
Published: 2026-02-04T19:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://theconversation.com/au/podcasts/politics-with-michelle-grattan
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