# China and the US - a durable thaw? w/ Tobita Chow and Jake Werner

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Podcast: [Politics Theory Other](https://stenobird.com/podcast/politics-theory-other-887376)
Published: 2026-05-18T10:52:03+00:00
Episode link: https://soundcloud.com/poltheoryother/chinathaw
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China experts Tobita Chow and Jake Werner join PTO to talk about the recently concluded summit in Beijing between the United States and the People's Republic of China. We chatted about whether or not the relative thaw in relations (and the continuation of the tariff truce) is durable. We went on to talk about China's approach to Taiwan, and how realistic or otherwise the idea of a Chinese blockade or military assault on the island really are. And Jake and Toby explained what they see as potential crises on the horizon that might worsen relations between the two most powerful states in the global system.

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