# OVERTIME: John Cena Proves Even Macho Men Can Be Vulnerable

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Podcast: [Point Taken with Steve Scaffidi & Kristin Brey](https://stenobird.com/podcast/point-taken-with-steve-scaffidi-kristin-brey-6802282)
Published: 2026-07-02T11:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1191

## Resource

Pete Davidson's emotional conversation with John Cena about his Make-A-Wish work sparked a much bigger discussion than either Steve or Kristin expected. They talk about masculinity, vulnerability, fatherhood, and why some of the most meaningful conversations can happen in the most unexpected places. Kristin challenges Steve on how men communicate with one another, while Steve reflects on how raising two daughters has shaped his emotional perspective. It's one of the more personal episodes of Overtime yet.

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