# Amy Elizabeth Fox | A Trauma-Informed Paradigm for Leadership, Coaching, and Consulting

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Podcast: [Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl](https://stenobird.com/podcast/point-of-relation-with-thomas-huebl-6051750)
Published: 2026-03-10T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
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## Resource

This week, Thomas sits down with the CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, Amy Elizabeth Fox, for a conversation about bringing trauma-informed wisdom and embodied presence into leadership, organizations, coaching, and consulting work. They discuss how traditional coaching and leadership development are inadequate for increasingly chaotic times, where unresolved personal and collective trauma create unhealthy environments that lack resilience. Thomas and Amy offer tools and practices for down-regulating stress, creating psychological safety, and fostering a workplace rooted in deep connection and belonging—where creativity drives progress instead of fear. They also discuss Amy’s new book co-authored with Nicholas Janni, Leading in Chaos, which you can learn about in more detail below. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/dwepmJHG_sg Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Registration is open for “Foundations of Trauma-Informed Coaching & Consulting.” This 8-week live online course, co-taught by Thomas Hübl and Amy Elizabeth Fox, is for coaches, consultants, group facilitators, and HR professionals who want to bring greater presence, depth, and trauma-informed awareness to their work with leaders and teams. The course begins on April 26. Learn more & register here 👉 https://traumainformedcertificateprogram.com ✨ Leading in Chaos: Available for Pre-Order Amy Elizabeth Fox and Nicholas Janni, dear friends and students of Thomas, are publishing Leading in Chaos, arguing that what’s required in today's world is not better tools or frameworks, but “next practice” — a trauma-informed approach to leadership as an embodied, developmental practice. Pre-order the book and read the sample chapter here 👉 https://leadinginc…

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