# Poetry Unbound in Conversation — Rachel Mann and Yomi Ṣode

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Podcast: [Poetry Unbound](https://stenobird.com/podcast/poetry-unbound-104007)
Published: 2026-06-12T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://onbeing.org/series/poetry-unbound/
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## Resource

“Poetry should be horrifying,” says Rachel Mann. “It should be … on the edge of the edge of what could be said.” We are delighted to bring you this vibrant conversation featuring Rachel and Yomi Ṣode speaking with Pádraig Ó Tuama at the 2024 StAnza Poetry Festival in Scotland. Rachel and Yomi each read poems, and then go on to discuss grace, who receives it, and who deserves it; the place of grief and remembrance in their work; and how writing about historical figures is a way to disrupt and re-vision both the past and the present. We invite you to subscribe to Pádraig’s weekly Poetry Unbound Substack, read the Poetry Unbound books and his newest work, Kitchen Hymns, or listen to all our Poetry Unbound episodes.

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