# From Prison to Yale to the Trades: How Darnell Epps is Creating New Pathways for Builders

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Podcast: [PodCrash with Matt Ebert](https://stenobird.com/podcast/podcrash-with-matt-ebert-7321565)
Published: 2025-11-18T11:10:00+00:00
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## Resource

On today's episode of PodCrash: Darnell Epps spent 17 years in prison, earned his way into Cornell and Yale Law School, and trained as a machinist to understand the workforce from the ground up. He joins Crash Champions CEO Matt Ebert to talk mentorship, second chances, the future of the trades, and how Thurgood Industries is helping rebuild America’s workforce. A powerful episode for shop owners, foremen, and anyone who believes grit can change a life. Want more Matt in your life? Of course you do! https://www.instagram.com/mattebertcc/ https://www.facebook.com/MattEbertCC https://twitter.com/mattebertcc/ https://www.tiktok.com/@mattebertcc https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-ebert-7169a5180/ Get paid while you learn on the job at Crash Champions: https://step.crashchampions.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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