# Podcast Nation Co-founders Clio de la Llave and Nadine Robinson on Growing Podcasts for Influencers Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/podcast-perspectives-6540240/podcast-nation-co-founders-clio-de-la-llave-and-nadine-robinson-on-growing-podcasts-for-influencers Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/podcast-perspectives-6540240/podcast-nation-co-founders-clio-de-la-llave-and-nadine-robinson-on-growing-podcasts-for-influencers.md Podcast: [Podcast Perspectives](https://stenobird.com/podcast/podcast-perspectives-6540240) Published: 2026-05-12T07:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/51/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG8669518899.mp3?updated=1778523518 Audio file: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/51/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG8669518899.mp3?updated=1778523518 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/podcast-perspectives-6540240/episodes/podcast-nation-co-founders-clio-de-la-llave-and-nadine-robinson-on-growing-podcasts-for-influencers Duration seconds: 2618 ## Resource Clio de la Llave and Nadine Robinson are the co-founders of Podcast Nation, a creator-first network born out of their influencer marketing agency, Booje Media. We discuss how they evolved from managing social creators to building one of the most distinctive podcast businesses, why integrating audio with social and talent is now central to modern podcast advertising, and what they’ve learned from scaling shows like The Telepathy Tapes, Dear Shandy, and The Mom Room. Clio and Nadine also share how they’ve rethought pricing, revenue share, and cross-platform strategy as Podcast Nation has grown, and what happens when a show suddenly becomes the biggest podcast in the world. You can find Clio and Nadine through podcastnation.co or on Linkedin. I’m on all the socials @JeffUmbro Looking for more actionable podcast strategies after today's episode? Check out The Podglomerate's free resources: The Ultimate Guide to Podcast Marketing: https://podglomerate.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-podcast-marketing-in-2025/ How to Level Up Your Monetization Strategy: https://podglomerate.com/how-to-level-up-your-podcast-monetization-strategy/ What is a Realistic Expectation when Monetizing Your Podcast: https://podglomerate.com/realistic-podcast-monetization-expectations/ The Podglomerate offers production, distribution, and monetization services for dozens of new and industry-leading podcasts. Whether you’re just beginning or a seasoned podcaster, we offer what you need. To find more about The Podglomerate: – Show Page and Transcript: https://listen.podglomerate.com/show/podcast-perspectives – YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Podglomeratepods – Email: listen@thepodglomerate.com – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/podglomerate – Twitter: @podglomerate – Instagram: @podglomeratepods Le… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/podcast-perspectives-6540240/episodes/podcast-nation-co-founders-clio-de-la-llave-and-nadine-robinson-on-growing-podcasts-for-influencers/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/podcast-perspectives-6540240/podcast-nation-co-founders-clio-de-la-llave-and-nadine-robinson-on-growing-podcasts-for-influencers.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.