# Moses and the Doctor: Two Men, One Championship, and the Birth of Modern Basketball with Luke Epplin

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Published: 2026-02-23T09:19:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this edition of POF Book Club, Jim welcomes author Luke Epplin to discuss his latest book, “Moses and the Doctor: Two Men, One Championship, and the Birth of Modern Basketball." First, Jim and Luke dive into why Moses Malone and Julius Erving are so overlooked when discussing the greatest players in NBA history despite being two of the top 25 guys to ever play the game (6:37). Then, Jim and Luke speculate what life would have looked like without the ABA, details about his interview with Erving, and whether Luke ranks Malone or Dr. J higher in his all-time player rankings (11:33). Finally, Jim and Luke cover the greatest NBA combos to win a championship (28:23).

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