# 156. The Lie of Scarcity: Creating a New Dream for the Planet with Lynne Twist & Sara Vetter

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Podcast: [Plenty with Kate Northrup](https://stenobird.com/podcast/plenty-with-kate-northrup-6618641)
Published: 2026-04-28T06:00:00+00:00
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What if the feeling that there’s “not enough” isn’t actually true—but something you’ve been taught to believe? And what might shift if your relationship with money became rooted in sufficiency instead of scarcity? What if scarcity isn’t a reality—but a story we’ve all been living inside? In this episode, I sit down with Lynne Twist and Sara Vetter for one of the most expansive conversations we’ve had on this podcast—about money, purpose, and what it means to create a different future for our planet. We explore the idea that the dominant paradigm we’ve been operating in—the belief that there’s not enough, that we have to compete, that someone will inevitably be left out—is actually a lie. And how that belief shapes not only our financial lives, but the way we relate to each other and the world. Lynne shares her decades of work in global philanthropy and the profound realization that people living in conditions of hunger are not “less than”—that what’s lacking is not their worth, but their circumstances. And Sara opens up about her own journey from external success and privilege into a deeper, more meaningful relationship with money and purpose. We talk about sufficiency—not as a number, but as a state of being. We explore what happens when we shift from accumulation to contribution, from fear to trust, and from isolation to connection. This conversation is ultimately an invitation to look at your own relationship with money—and to consider the possibility that true wealth lives not in what you have, but in how you engage with your life. “The paradigm of scarcity—that there’s not enough to go around—is a lie.” –Lynne Twist “Money does not bring you happiness.” –Sara Vetter 🎤 Let’s Dive into the Good Stuff on Plenty 🎤 00:24 Guest Introduction and Episode Themes (Lynn Twis…

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