# 148. How No Longer Trying To Convince Anyone and Putting Down Her Sword Freed Dr. Kelly Brogan (and Opened Up More Abundance)

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Podcast: [Plenty with Kate Northrup](https://stenobird.com/podcast/plenty-with-kate-northrup-6618641)
Published: 2026-03-03T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

What if the most radical thing you could do isn’t fight harder—but finally put down your sword? In this episode, I sit down with my friend Dr. Kelly Brogan, host of Reclamation Radio, to explore what happened when she stopped trying to convince anyone and turned her attention inward. We talk about activism, identity, feminine power, marriage, money, and the grief that can live underneath even the most successful life. Kelly shares how examining her own patterns—rather than battling villains—transformed her relationships, her business, and her sense of safety We also dive into provocative territory around women, provision, ambition, and what it really means to feel supported instead of self-sufficient at all costs. If you’re a high-functioning woman whose external success has outpaced your internal peace, this conversation will feel like both a mirror and an invitation. “ Most big-time activists have dumpster fires in their personal lives. In my case, activism was an elaborate avoidance strategy. ” — Kelly Brogan 🎤 Let’s Dive into the Good Stuff on Plenty 🎤 00:00 – Introduction and Personal Reflections 11:24 – Cultural Differences in Behavior 18:55 – Influence of Literature on Life Choices 22:24 – Prioritizing Motherhood 27:45 – Activism and Personal Reflection 39:56 – Unexpected Business Success 48:07 – Creating Personal Connections 01:01:28 – Containment in Business and Relationships 01:06:53 – Weightlifting and Personal Growth 01:09:18 – Conclusion and Farewell Links and Resources: Relaxed Money® Do Less Money, A Love Story Connect with Dr. Kelly Brogan: Website Instagram Reclamation Radio Podcast Vital Mind Reset Program A Mind of Your Own ✨ Ready to Feel Supported by the Money You’re Already Making? If you’re ambitious, capable, and earning well—but still feel a qu…

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