# #22. Todd Hargrove. Reclaiming Lost Movement Territory

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Podcast: [Playful Nature Podcast by WildStrong](https://stenobird.com/podcast/playful-nature-podcast-by-wildstrong-7095793)
Published: 2025-08-07T16:59:34+00:00
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## Resource

In this really thoughtful conversation, Andrew Telfer speaks with writer and movement educator Todd Hargrove, whose books and blog have helped thousands rethink how they move, feel, and learn. They explore somatic traditions like Feldenkrais and Rolfing, ecological dynamics, affordances, pain perception, and the limitations of top-down movement instruction. Todd also shares insights from his new book Healthy Movement for Human Animals , which offers an evolutionary lens on movement that’s both accessible and grounded. Expect reflections on growing your “movement map,” changing your environment to change your behaviour, and how pain is often more a perception issue than a structural one. There’s also a fair bit of healthy critique for gyms, blueprints, and the fantasy of precision in movement coaching. Todd’s Book – Healthy Movement for Human Animals Frank Forencich – Human Animal Katy Bowman – Nutritious Movement Daniel Lieberman – Exercised Harvard Gazette article Gibsonian Psychology & Ecological Dynamics (Affordances) Wikipedia entry on affordances Feldenkrais Method – Official Site Rolfing Structural Integration – Official Site Book – Paleofantasy by Marlene Zuk

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