# Carney rode the wave Trump never saw coming | Melissa Lantsman  talks Jays

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Podcast: [Playbook Canada](https://stenobird.com/podcast/playbook-canada-7556041)
Published: 2026-06-18T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Mark Carney went from the candidate nobody thought could win to majority prime minister in little more than a year. A new POLITICO Magazine feature co-authored by our own Nick Taylor-Vaisey traces how he pulled it off. Nick and Mickey Djuric run through Carney’s unlikely rise to power, while guest host Alex Burns explains how Washington reads, and misreads, his rise. Plus: Bill C-22, the Liberals’ lawful access bill, exposes a split in the Conservative caucus, the World Cup arrives in North America with a trail of messy politics, and Conservative deputy leader Melissa Lantsman sits down for a 200-second interview.

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