# Elon's Big Loss, Trump's Stock Trades, and OpenAI vs. Apple

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Published: 2026-05-19T10:00:00+00:00
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Kara and Scott discuss Elon Musk losing the OpenAI trial — just as they predicted. Then, OpenAI gears up for its next battle: a potential legal fight with Apple over ChatGPT’s integration into Siri and iOS. Plus, Trump’s stock trades, new details about SpaceX’s IPO and governance, and Spencer Pratt’s rise in the L.A. mayoral race. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠.Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠.Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠.Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email Pivot@voxmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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