# “It's An Act Of WAR!” Professor Jiang vs Gordon Chang On China, Iran & Trump | Plus Robert Pape

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Podcast: [Piers Morgan Uncensored](https://stenobird.com/podcast/piers-morgan-uncensored-5338451)
Published: 2026-04-16T18:00:00+00:00
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“Keep protesting,” Donald Trump told the Iranian people earlier this year—promising that “help is on its way.” In cities like London, Washington DC and Los Angeles, some in the Iranian diaspora rallied behind that message, calling for action and, in some cases, for war. More than six weeks later, with conflict grinding on and no clear resolution in sight, serious questions are emerging. Has any of this actually helped the people inside Iran? While parts of the regime’s military capability have been damaged, its grip on power—and its ability to suppress its own population—appears unchanged. Claims of a potential uprising, championed by figures including Benjamin Netanyahu and echoed in Washington, have yet to materialise. Meanwhile, reports of attempts to arm protesters—allegedly via Kurdish groups—raise further controversy and unanswered questions. As the war drags on and the human cost mounts, one central question remains: who has this conflict actually helped? Piers Morgan is joined by Iranian-American actor Sam Asghari, Iranian-American journalist & US Editor of Unherd, Sohrab Ahmari, international affairs scholar Professor Robert Pape (1:1) Plus: Bafel Talabani - President, Patriotic Union of Kurdistan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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