# "Genius-Level REPTILE!" Gabor Mate vs Gad Saad On Elon Musk, Grooming Gangs & Migration

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Podcast: [Piers Morgan Uncensored](https://stenobird.com/podcast/piers-morgan-uncensored-5338451)
Published: 2026-06-24T19:34:00+00:00
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Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and sponsored by: Outskill: 👉 Grab your free seat to the 2-Day AI Mastermind: https://links.outskill.com/PIMOJUN4 🔐 100% Discount for the first 1000 people 💥 Dive deep into AI and Learn Automations, Build AI Agents, Make videos & images – all for free! 🎁 Bonuses worth $5100+ if you join and attend A controversial concept has been gaining traction among some of the world's most influential voices. "Suicidal Empathy" - a term popularised by public figures including Elon Musk, Marc Andreessen and Bill Ackman — is the idea that excessive or misdirected compassion can lead societies to make decisions that ultimately undermine their own interests. Its advocates argue that issues such as mass migration, crime and cultural integration are too often viewed through an emotional lens rather than a practical one, with potentially disastrous consequences for Western civilisation. Critics, however, say the theory is little more than a justification for abandoning compassion when it conflicts with a particular political worldview. They argue that empathy is a strength, not a weakness, and warn that the concept risks dehumanising vulnerable people. So who is right? Piers Morgan is joined by Professor Gad Saad, the evolutionary psychologist who coined the term and whose new book, Suicidal Empathy, expands on the argument. Piers is then joined by Canadian physician and author Gabor Mate, who responds to Saad’s criticism of his work. 00:00 Introduction 01:32 Gad Saad on limiting Islamic immigration to Western countries 07:17 Gad Saad on grooming gangs using religion to excuse their crimes 10:26 AD: Outskill - Grab your free seat to the 2-Day AI Mastermind: https://links.outskill.com/PIMOJUN4 11:17 Gad Saad continues his point regarding the i…

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