# Building around Nikola Jokic moving forward

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Podcast: [Pickaxe and Roll](https://stenobird.com/podcast/pickaxe-and-roll-3593708)
Published: 2026-06-02T19:07:00+00:00
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## Resource

Ryan Blackburn does the 2025-26 season grades for Denver Nuggets centers. He discusses Nikola Jokic, Jonas Valanciunas, and Zeke Nnaji before breaking down what the Nuggets must do to build around Jokic for the rest of his career.

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