# What to Make of Any of This

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Podcast: [Phillies Therapy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/phillies-therapy-5266426)
Published: 2026-06-16T16:56:00+00:00
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The Phillies are winning, but the performance of most their roster doesn't really reflect that. Their (lack of) depth required them to trade two players in June for outfield help. It all feels so tenuous, despite the record. Paul has a moment while continuing to try and come to grips with that, and Matt offers his theory. Plus: Gabriel Rincones, Jr., more Trea Turner, and a quick assessment of needs six weeks out from the deadline. Our Executive Producer supporters for this episode are: Adam D., Andrew C., Andrew G., Joe M., and Mary R. Thank you as well to this show's additional Producers: Amy Z., Birche F., Brian S., Brian H., Brian J., Brian L., Briana W., CallisonGhost, Christopher S., Daniel Y., Em B., Hunter R., Ian, Jack S., Jacob K., Jacob T.. Jaedon M., Jami P., Jason G., Joe M., John S., Kaitlin M., Kodi L., Lindsay, Lisa L., Matt H., Michael Wei., Michael Wer., Nate J., Nick F., Nolan R., Phil C., Robert R., Timothy G., Tom D., Tom H., Tyler R., Vinay V., Zack, and our anonymous supporters. For more, visit patreon.com/PhilliesTherapy Merch: https://phillies-therapy-shop.fourthwall.com Many Hands Coffee: manyhandscoffee.com

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