# “This Felt Really Hard” - Obstacles to Perennial Adoption for Non-Operating Landowners

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Podcast: [Perennial AF](https://stenobird.com/podcast/perennial-af-4037011)
Published: 2025-03-15T17:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.learnagroforestry.com/podcasts/perennial-af/episodes/2148996711
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## Resource

Host Jacob Grace talks with his friend Alex about her family’s experiences as non-operating landowners trying to establish perennial management on their historic Wisconsin farm, and the hurdles and roadblocks they have encountered along the way. Show notes at www.SavannaInstitute.org/PerennialAF

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