# Why You Should Stop Chasing Money and Start Chasing Obsession, with Bill Gurley

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Published: 2026-03-02T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Kyle sits down with venture capitalist and author Bill Gurley to talk about how to figure out your passion, what people get wrong about networking, and why pursuing your dream career isn’t such an idealistic idea. 00:00 Intro 01:23 How do we recognize if we have a “passion”? 04:40 Do we spend enough time in a sampling period? 08:48 Something Bill advises young people to ask of older adults 09:14 How Bill responds to the pushback that people should aim for a stable, money-making career instead of their dream jobs 11:21 On mentorship and networking 17:09 Bill’s “Go where the action is” principle 21:54 Advice to people early in their career with regards to emerging technologies Be sure to check out Bill’s new book, Runnin’ Down a Dream: How to Thrive in a Career You Actually Love. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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