# Retirement Has Changed—Here’s How to Plan For What It’s Really Like

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Published: 2026-05-25T10:00:00+00:00
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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss all things retirement—how the concept of retirement has changed, how they’re financially planning for their own retirements, and what their ideal retirement looks like. 00:00 Intro 01:33 What does retirement look like right now? 08:48 How Kaila and Kyle approach the financial element of retirement 12:58 Thinking about the non-financial aspects of retirement 22:30 Mini retirements 25:45 Where Kaila and Kyle plan to retire 31:13 Per My Last Policy This episode was sponsored by Granola. Head to granola.ai/brew to try Granola for free. That’s granola.ai/brew to try it today for FREE. Find Granola-generated notes on this episode here: https://notes.granola.ai/t/a9006ea5-1bbd-41d5-855f-b456a44d2822-009c2hma Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube: @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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