# Two Ways to Become an Expert, Fighting Environmental Fees & Knowing What Good Looks Like

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Podcast: [Per Diem Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/per-diem-podcast-7144619)
Published: 2026-04-20T08:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3111

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In this episode, Keaton Turner begins with listener voicemails, sharing initial reactions and cleaning up the audio. He discusses a coffee meeting and golf plans, followed by a challenge regarding environmental fees and vendor shoutouts, including Mader services and Bulletproof Mounts. Keaton shifts to the topic of understanding what "good" looks like, discussing maintenance costs, leadership styles, and team dynamics. He explores striving for world-class standards and learning from experts, introducing Blake and his expertise. The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing personal limits and building a world-class organization. The episode wraps up with Tucker's unique approach, closing thoughts, and plans to hit the golf course.

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