# Season 4, Ep. 7: Leadership is Brisket

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Podcast: [Per Diem Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/per-diem-podcast-7144619)
Published: 2026-07-10T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Keaton Turner dives into the importance of taking initiative at work and balancing leisure with productivity. He distinguishes between proactive and reactive employees, highlighting the value of aggressive patience and doing more than you're paid for. Keaton shares insights on employee performance over time and the secret to earning more. A listener Q&A covers leading as a young CEO and leadership lessons through a brisket analogy. Keaton discusses two paths to genuine leadership, the importance of hiring experienced leaders, and prioritizing leadership investment over short-term profits. The episode wraps up with reflections on building a strong organizational structure.

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