# Rethinking Environmental Governance: Reflections from Adapting to High Level Warming

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Podcast: [People Places Planet](https://stenobird.com/podcast/people-places-planet-338317)
Published: 2025-06-25T15:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

If you're interested in purchasing Adapting to High Level Warming: Law, Governance, and Equity , please visit ELI's website for more information. What happens when climate projections exceed our current legal frameworks and planning models? In this episode of People Places Planet , host Dara Albrecht explores the provocative premise behind Adapting to High Level Warming , the fifth volume in the Environmental Law Collaborative’s book series published by ELI Press . Joined by editors Katrina Kuh and Shannon Roesler, as well as chapter authors Sarah Fox and Kevin Lynch, the conversation delves into how legal scholars are grappling with the likelihood of 3–4°C warming scenarios. Fox introduces the concept of “climate-changed communities” and the pressures local governments face as they adapt to new environmental realities. Lynch discusses the double-edged nature of preemption law, which can either enable or obstruct needed climate action at the local level. With commentary from editors Katrina Kuh and Shannon Roesler, the conversation highlights how law and governance must be reimagined and stretched to meet the needs of a radically changed climate. With insights ranging from historic preservation to energy policy, this episode underscores why preparing for worst-case scenarios is no longer alarmist—but necessary. Featured chapters: Climate-Changed Communities ( 07:53 ) by Sarah Fox. Preemption: Opportunities and Obstacles for Climate Adaptation ( 31:39 ) by Kevin J. Lynch. ★ Support this podcast ★

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