# How to take ERGS from Performative to Powerful

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Podcast: [People Person](https://stenobird.com/podcast/people-person-7539363)
Published: 2026-01-27T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Welcome to People Person! In this episode, host and Morning Brew’s SVP Head of People Operations Kate Noel, speaks with Maceo Owens, CEO & Founder, The ERG Movement, about how companies can implement and support ERGs for maximum results — and what those results should even be. Maceo discusses how to make employee resource groups powerful and now just performative, especially without a large budget, and explains how leaders should be thinking about these groups within a company (hint: they are an internal marketing engine!). She also shares valuable advice on how involved HR should be with these groups, and tips for setting up these programs for success at your own organization. 00:00: Intro 01:15: What separates the performative from the powerful 06:45: How can HR best support ERGs 13:40: Should ERGs be led by HR or employees 20:10: How ERGs can be impactful with low budgets 23:30: How to start and ERG at your company 27:20: Takeaways for setting up an ERG program for success Connect with Maceo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maceoowens/ Be sure to check out: https://ergs.io/ and https://shop.theergmovement.com/products/the-erg-recipe-book Subscribe to the HR Brew newsletter: https://www.hr-brew.com/subscribe Watch People Person on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hr-brew Follow HR Brew: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hr_brew/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/hrbrew/ Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to peopleperson@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices People Person is a candid and conversational show where People Professionals can feel seen and heard, and learn from fellow experts in their field. Host and SVP, Head of People Operations at Morning Brew Inc, Kate Noel, brings years…

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