# How to Actually Achieve Work-Life Balance For All Employees

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Published: 2025-11-18T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Welcome to People Person! In this episode, host and Morning Brew’s SVP Head of People Operations Kate Noel, speaks with Sam DeMase, a writer, career coach, former HR exec, and current career expert at ZipRecruiter. Sam shares strategies for how HR teams can lead culture change and implement boundaries to actually achieve work-life balance, for both employees and HR teams. She also provides actionable tips on setting good examples, especially for managers and leaders, and explains why work-life balance is not just about taking your vacation days. Sam also weighs in on good and bad Out of Office messages to ensure your team can handle any problem while you’re offline! 00:00: Intro 02:09: How to define work/life balance 03:40: Is it just about time off? 04:20: How HR can set the example 08:15: Educating leadership 09:40: Are the rules different for remote or hybrid workers 12:00: What do employees want to achieve work-life balance 14:50: Easy lifts for HR to implement for balance 17:46: Managers vs. leaders 18:30: Best work perks and ideal vacation time 24:00: Setting boundaries with your Out Of Office message This episode is sponsored by Equifax. Go to http://www.equifax.com/hrbrew for more information. For more from Sam, check out her website: https://www.apowermood.com/ and Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/apowermood/ Subscribe to the HR Brew newsletter: https://www.hr-brew.com/subscribe Watch People Person on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hr-brew Follow HR Brew: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hr_brew/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/hrbrew/ Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to peopleperson@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices People Person is a candid and conversational show where…

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