# Sam Altman x Nikhil Kamath: How to Win When AI Changes Everything | People by WTF | Episode 13

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Published: 2025-08-14T12:15:24+00:00
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## Resource

I finally sat down with Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, to discuss the launch of GPT-5, its differences, whether we’re inching closer to agent-like AI, what it takes to build a future that’s moving at breakneck speed. 00:00 - Intro 01:13 - What’s New in GPT-5? 02:54 - Sam on First Principles, Careers & Future Industries 05:47 - What’s Possible with GPT-5 07:09 - Building on GPT-5: Skills & Science Applications 10:28 - Mastering Today’s AI Tools 11:37 - Sam’s Self-Perception & Edge at 19 13:42 - Is Humility Still an Advantage? 18:51 - Parenthood & Why He Chose It 21:19 - How Marriage, Religion & Kids Will Evolve 22:20 - Capitalism, Democracy & The Odds of Socialism 25:44 - Does AGI Make Capital Obsolete? 28:25 - Marginal Utility & the Fate of Wrappers 34:15 - Is Contrarian Thinking an Edge? 37:33 - AGI vs. Human Intelligence 38:56 - The Future of Robotics 40:55 - Where the Form Factor is Headed 42:54 - Climate Change & AI in India #NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur Twitter: [ https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g) LinkedIN: []( https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGNsNjlxS2NyU3VxOUNIQU1VUmczaWNobmtJd3xBQ3Jtc0tsVmczaDdwdkpMZWlNaVdISk1mQUFfbmhZNVB2al9OU1hwbF9rYTFoMFJGN2FKRnFreXFEaXZhRGttd2xLRHBpQVhIS19XaW5wQTZ3UjB6bm5vazVmdUkwSEdsU0MxS1lXYmJvVnhlekVRczc0RmdTRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https:/…

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