# What If Space And Time Are Unreal?

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Podcast: [PBS Space Time](https://stenobird.com/podcast/pbs-space-time-7778773)
Published: 2026-06-22T08:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/VG3521173932.mp3?updated=1778671447
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