# 21. Jay Z, Nas, Griselda & Pooh Sheisty 101 | Salma Zaky | PYF$ with Cipha Sounds

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Podcast: [PAY YOUR FRIEND$ with Cipha Sounds](https://stenobird.com/podcast/pay-your-friend-with-cipha-sounds-7676126)
Published: 2026-06-16T23:00:00+00:00
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PAY YOUR FRIEND$ is back and comedian Salma Zaky is back for her third appearance — this time to get a full hip-hop education whether she wants it or not. Cipha quizzes Salma on everything from Jay-Z's name origins to the four pillars of hip-hop, and somehow she keeps landing answers through pure energy and Brooklyn osmosis. Along the way they break down Nas lyrics line by line, decode rapper nicknames, and get into the current state of the culture. In this episode: • Jay-Z's "Reasonable Doubt" 30th anniversary at Yankee Stadium + the "Blueprint" 25th • Why he's called Hov, and the "water to a well/whale" mystery (he texted back "yes") • The four pillars of hip-hop — and why Cipha wants a fifth • Nas, "N.Y. State of Mind," and reading Illmatic like poetry • The Griselda situation: Westside Gunn, Conway & Benny the Butcher • The Pooh Shiesty / Gucci Mane case • Knicks fever, old NYC vs. new NYC, and more Serious things, the silly way. How have you helped a friend today? 🎧 Listen everywhere you get podcasts. 📲 Subscribe, like, and share. #CiphaSounds #PayYourFriends #SalmaZaky #HipHop #Comedy #JayZ #Nas #Griselda #NYC #Podcast

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