# On Raising Up Leaders Part 2 (Ep. 333)

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Podcast: [Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks](https://stenobird.com/podcast/pastors-talk-a-podcast-by-9marks-845854)
Published: 2026-05-19T09:00:19+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1499

## Resource

Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever continue their conversation on raising up leaders, exploring the connection between discipleship, evangelism, and church planting, how to measure ministry fruitfulness beyond numbers, and what it means to steward your church for the next pastor.

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