# The Science of Connection and Why We Underestimate Others | Nicholas Epley - EP 760

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Podcast: [Passion Struck with John R. Miles](https://stenobird.com/podcast/passion-struck-with-john-r-miles-7804824)
Published: 2026-04-28T04:05:02+00:00
Episode link: https://passionstruck.com/the-science-of-social-connection-nicholas-epley/
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What if the happiness, belonging, and meaning you are looking for is hiding in the conversations you never start? In this episode of Passion Struck, John R. Miles sits down with social psychologist Nicholas Epley to explore why we consistently underestimate how much social interaction improves our lives. Drawing from his work and new book, A Little More Social , Nick reveals a profound paradox: while humans are wired for connection, we often choose solitude due to mistaken assumptions about how others will respond. They discuss the surprising benefits of talking to strangers, the psychology of reciprocity, and how tiny micro-choices of connection influence long-term happiness, health, and belonging. Nick also shares insights from his famous train studies and explains why loneliness is often fueled by a fear of rejection that does not align with reality. Key Discussion Points: The Paradox of Solitude: Understanding why we choose to be less social than we should be despite the clear happiness benefits of connection. The Train Study: Nick shares the research proving that talking to strangers leads to a more positive experience than sitting in silence. Misjudging Kindness: Why we consistently underestimate how much others will appreciate our reach-outs and how kindness is more common than we assume. The Psychology of Reciprocity: How small social risks lead to a "wordless tie" of mutual belonging and gratitude. Loneliness and Rejection: Why mistaken assumptions about how others perceive us create unnecessary barriers to closeness. Human Flourishing: How intentional social micro-choices serve the broader mission of building a life of significance and internal worth. Passion Struck is the #1 alternative health and personal growth podcast dedicated to human flourishing and th…

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