# Episode 22: What Ever Happened to So-and-So? Or Publishing is a Game of Survivor​ (A Kidlit Happy Hour Crossover Episode) with Joanna Ho and Caroline Kusin Pritchard

Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/paper-trail-6608707/episode-22-what-ever-happened-to-so-and-so-or-publishing-is-a-game-of-survivor-a-kidlit-happy-hour-crossover-episode-with-joanna-ho-and-caroline-kusin-pritchard
Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/paper-trail-6608707/episode-22-what-ever-happened-to-so-and-so-or-publishing-is-a-game-of-survivor-a-kidlit-happy-hour-crossover-episode-with-joanna-ho-and-caroline-kusin-pritchard.md
Podcast: [Paper Trail](https://stenobird.com/podcast/paper-trail-6608707)
Published: 2025-08-04T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-paper-trail-podcast/episodes/Episode-22-What-Ever-Happened-to-So-and-So--Or-Publishing-is-a-Game-of-Survivor-A-Kidlit-Happy-Hour-Crossover-Episode-with-Joanna-Ho-and-Caroline-Kusin-Pritchard-e36d27b
Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/e709f668/podcast/play/106383019/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-7-3%2F1434a918-feec-9add-67b0-a36c3b28554a.mp3
Processing state: not_requested
JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/paper-trail-6608707/episodes/episode-22-what-ever-happened-to-so-and-so-or-publishing-is-a-game-of-survivor-a-kidlit-happy-hour-crossover-episode-with-joanna-ho-and-caroline-kusin-pritchard
Duration seconds: 4184

## Resource

The one where we lament the shift away from lyrical picture books, mourn the synchronicity of writing something that already exists, and discuss the audacity required to actually go the distance as an author. Connect with Joanna Ho online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Caroline Kusin Pritchard online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Laekan Zea Kemp online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Threads⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Laekan's books⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Vincent Tirado online: ⁠Website⁠ ⁠TikTok⁠ ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠Buy Vincent's books⁠ Connect with Diana Rodriguez Wallach online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy Diana's books⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

## Actions

- request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/paper-trail-6608707/episodes/episode-22-what-ever-happened-to-so-and-so-or-publishing-is-a-game-of-survivor-a-kidlit-happy-hour-crossover-episode-with-joanna-ho-and-caroline-kusin-pritchard/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode.
- read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/paper-trail-6608707/episode-22-what-ever-happened-to-so-and-so-or-publishing-is-a-game-of-survivor-a-kidlit-happy-hour-crossover-episode-with-joanna-ho-and-caroline-kusin-pritchard.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource.

A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed.

## Transcript

Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.