# Technological Revolutions with Jerry Neumann

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Podcast: [Oxide and Friends](https://stenobird.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends-5250129)
Published: 2025-09-18T14:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/37fbebaf
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## Resource

Jerry Neumann joined Bryan and Adam to discuss his blog post from 2015, examining the work of Carlota Perez on technological revolutions. These waves have similarities, in particular: frenzy, bust, and deployment. Is AI a new wave or the culmination of the IT wave of the last 50 years? In addition to Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal , we were joined by special guest, Jerry Neumann . Some of the topics we hit on, in the order that we hit them: Jerry's 2015 blog post: The Deployment Age PRs needed! Previous episodes mentioned: OxF s05e24 - Oxide’s $100M Series B OxF s05e04 - AI Disruption: DeepSeek and Cerebras If we got something wrong or missed something, please file a PR! Our next show will likely be on Monday at 5p Pacific Time on our Discord server; stay tuned to our Mastodon feeds for details, or subscribe to this calendar . We'd love to have you join us, as we always love to hear from new speakers!

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