# Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

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Podcast: [Oxide and Friends](https://stenobird.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends-5250129)
Published: 2026-01-15T15:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

What do LLMs mean for the future of software engineering? Will vibe-coded AI slop be the norm? Will software engineers simply be less in-demand? Rain and David join Bryan and Adam to discuss how rigorous use of LLMs can make for much more robust systems. In addition to Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal , we were joined by Rain Paharia , and David Crespo . Previously, on Oxide and Friends: OxF s03e08 – Does a GPT future need software engineers OxF s04e04 – Helios OxF s05e28 – Systems Software in the Large OxF s04e20 – Pragmatic LLM Usage with Nicholas Carlini Some of the topics we hit on, in the order that we hit them: The issue Bryan was fixing iddqd: the crate Rain built Ghostty David's bugs: 1 2 3 Rain's nextest bug: SIGTTOU when test spawns interactive shell Oxide RFD 619: Managing types across Dropshot API versions drift: the crate Adam built If we got something wrong or missed something, please file a PR! Our next show will likely be on Monday at 5p Pacific Time on our Discord server; stay tuned to our Mastodon feeds for details, or subscribe to this calendar . We'd love to have you join us, as we always love to hear from new speakers!

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