# Inside the Defence Estate, Retrofit Reality & Leading a Modern Contractor (EP 247)

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Podcast: [Own The Build](https://stenobird.com/podcast/own-the-build-3544855)
Published: 2025-12-08T05:00:00+00:00
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In this episode of Own the Build, Paul is joined by Trevor Wilkins, Managing Director of PAH Building & Construction — a contractor working deep inside one of the UK’s most complex and least-understood built environments: the defence estate. Trevor shares the unique story of PAH’s evolution from a one-client refurb contractor to a £15m business operating across the UK, including the landmark MOD housing portfolio recently brought back into government ownership. He opens up about the early...

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