# How You Show Up Says More Than Anything You'll Ever Say

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Podcast: [Outsource to Profits Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/outsource-to-profits-podcast-6451270)
Published: 2026-03-28T08:17:00+00:00
Episode link: https://getlevrg.podbean.com/e/how-you-show-up-says-more-than-anything-youll-ever-say/
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Episode: 138 Most founders underestimate how much their presence, not their words, shapes the way their team and customers follow them. This episode digs into the nonverbal signals, blind spots, and audience awareness that separate leaders who command rooms from those who lose them without ever knowing why. ABOUT THE HOST: Jamie Shanks is the founder of Get Levrg and host of Outsource to Profits. Having scaled three agencies from scrappy startups to global operations, Jamie brings a candid, hard-earned perspective on what it means to grow as a leader while your business grows around you. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamestshanks/ ABOUT THE GUEST: Kevin Wayne Johnson is the Founder and CEO of The Johnson Leadership Group LLC, a 16-time literary award-winning author, executive coach, and keynote speaker with a 34-year federal government career behind him. A Marine's son and servant leader at heart, Kevin pours into aspiring and seasoned leaders across government, corporations, nonprofits, and academic institutions with one mission: better leaders make a better world. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwaynejohnson/ EPISODE SUMMARY: Kevin Wayne Johnson joins Outsource to Profits to break down what leadership presence actually looks like before a single word is spoken. Drawing on his military upbringing and decades in government, Kevin walks through why perception is reality, how blind spots quietly erode credibility, and why knowing your audience is the most underrated leadership skill a founder can develop. He closes with a simple but powerful framework: know better, do better, lead better. WHAT YOU'LL WALK AWAY WITH: Why your nonverbal presence is already telling a story Your blind spots and how to fill the gap before it costs you What "knowing your aud…

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