# Help the People Already in Front of You | Hayden Lee | Ep 960

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Podcast: [Outlier's Edge Podcast with Niiamah Ashong](https://stenobird.com/podcast/outlier-s-edge-podcast-with-niiamah-ashong-699880)
Published: 2026-05-15T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://niiamahashong.com
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Duration seconds: 3239

## Resource

"I want to work with finishers. I want to help people finish. I think I'm called to work with the finishers." — Hayden Lee Join Niiamah (@niiamahashong) and Master Certified Coach Hayden Lee for a throwback conversation that goes deep on the inner journey behind the outer success. In this episode, Hayden unpacks the "low hanging fruit" trap, the belief that serving the people already in front of you is somehow beneath your mission, and discovers live in conversation the distinction that reframes everything: he's not built to work with starters. He's built to work with finishers. If you're a leader, coach, or world-changer asking whether you're playing the right game, this one will hit. Welcome to the Outlier's Edge Podcast, hosted by Niiamah Ashong, Founder of Outlier's Edge and Sherpa of the World of Difference. On this podcast, you'll join other high-performing unconventional leaders and entrepreneurs (aka Outliers) as they talk about leveraging what makes them different to make a difference in the world. Timestamps: 00:00 Produce vs. reduce distinction 05:19 Hayden joins the conversation 06:51 Master certified coach credentials 17:10 No plan B — origin story 23:51 Acting built the rejection muscle 26:31 Coaching coaches, neuroscience project 32:20 Is this low hanging fruit? 38:04 Exponential impact reframe 50:01 Starters vs. finishers breakthrough 51:30 Mile 17 — the marathon metaphor Follow Outlier's Edge Socials: Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn | Youtube | Website | Guild Community

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