# The Secret to Writing Better Music in Your 30s | Chief State Interview

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Podcast: [OurSpace with Matt Vettese](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ourspace-with-matt-vettese-6707497)
Published: 2026-07-01T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Chief State joins OurSpace with Matt Vettese to discuss their new album Keep Your Friends Closer, why it took nearly two years to finally release, and how becoming a fully collaborative band changed everything. The Vancouver pop punk outfit talks about evolving creatively, balancing adulthood with being in a touring band, and why they've rediscovered the joy of making music without putting so much pressure on themselves. We also dive into the album's songwriting process, favorite tracks, playing the record live for the first time, upcoming touring plans, and why they're already deep into writing the next chapter of Chief State. Plus, the band shares a handful of underrated Canadian artists you should have on your radar. Remember to leave a 5 star rating if you enjoyed the chat! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 📸 William Langlais -- OurSpace with Matt Vettese is now powered by elderemo.com — shop emo and pop punk apparel for yourself, your kids, and even your pets. Use code OURSPACE for 15% off your next order. https://elderemo.com/OURSPACE -- #ChiefState #KeepYourFriendsCloser #PopPunk #MelodicPunk #CanadianMusic #Vancouver #OurSpace #MattVettese #AlternativeMusic #NewMusic #OurSpace

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