# Episode 191: 'The Big One' with Mark Olshaker, Ann Hennigan Grace, & Dr. Sydney Redepenning

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Podcast: [Osterholm Update](https://stenobird.com/podcast/osterholm-update-744108)
Published: 2025-09-03T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/episode-191-big-one-mark-olshaker-ann-hennigan-grace-dr-sydney-redepenning
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## Resource

<p>In this week's special episode, Chris Dall interviews Dr. Osterholm and his coauthor Mark Olshaker on their new book <em>The Big One: How We Must Prepare for Future Deadly Pandemics</em>. They are also joined by Ann Hennigan Grace and CIDRAP's Dr. Sydney Redepenning who both conducted research and fact-checking for the book.</p> <p>The Big One is available for purchase <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/michael-t-osterholm-phd-mph/the-big-one/9780316258340/?lens=little-brown-spark">online</a> and at your local bookseller!</p> <p><a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/osterholm-update-covid-19"><strong>MORE EPISODES</strong></a>      </p> <p><a href="https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/support-cidrap"><strong>SUPPORT THIS PODCAST</strong></a></p>

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