# What’s the Skinny on Laws that Make Salaries Public?

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Podcast: [Optimist Economy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/optimist-economy-7257068)
Published: 2025-12-10T11:05:07+00:00
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## Resource

Listener Max did his grad thesis on pay transparency laws in Colorado and found that they narrowed the gender wage gap by 8 cents on the dollar. But some big-name economists reported that such laws can actually reduce wages. So what’s the deal? Kathryn’s answer during our October Q&A was so overlong and multipart that we jokingly called it, “The Max Show.” So here it is, as a mini-episode. Holiday shopping for the optimists in your life? Check out our shirts and hats at optimisteconomy.com

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