# 3075: Marriage is More Than Checking a Box on Your To-Do List by Kristen Manieri with Gottman on Intentional Marriage

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Podcast: [Optimal Relationships Daily - Dating, Marriage and Parenting](https://stenobird.com/podcast/optimal-relationships-daily-dating-marriage-and-parenting-1054569)
Published: 2026-07-14T07:00:00+00:00
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