# EP. 368: The Role of Bird Dogs in the Future of Hunting and Conservation

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Podcast: [On The Wing Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/on-the-wing-podcast-1052918)
Published: 2026-06-10T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

The connection between a bird dog and a hunter may be one of conservation’s most powerful forces. For many upland hunters, the journey begins with their first bird dog. For others, that dog is what keeps them connected to hunting, habitat conservation, and life outdoors. John Zeman has spent decades training bird dogs, competing in field trials, mentoring new handlers, and helping hunters develop better dogs. After retiring from the construction industry, he now spends even more time with the dogs, people, and public lands that have shaped his life. John joins the conversation to explain why bird dogs often serve as a gateway to upland hunting, conservation groups, and a lifelong connection to the outdoors. He discusses the need for accessible training grounds, the rising demand for places to work young dogs, and how volunteer-led efforts are protecting these opportunities for future hunters. The episode also touches on Zeman’s work training Bob’s young German shorthaired pointer, Winter. Follow the show for weekly conversations about hunting, conservation, bird dogs, and upland birds. On the Wing Podcast is proudly fueled by Purina Pro Plan.

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