# The Minimum Trellis

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Podcast: [On the Road to No Place Left](https://stenobird.com/podcast/on-the-road-to-no-place-left-761973)
Published: 2026-01-14T19:10:35+00:00
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## Resource

Welcome to the start of Season 9 of the On the Road Podcast. I’ve had a few years now of sporadic episodes, but starting with this one, there should be a regular rhythm of new episodes for a while. Chuck Wood II interviews me about the first post in my new series: On Pioneering . The conversation will make a lot more sense if you start by reading this short blog post: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/on-pioneering This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit pheaney.substack.com

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