# Catalysts and Teams

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Podcast: [On the Road to No Place Left](https://stenobird.com/podcast/on-the-road-to-no-place-left-761973)
Published: 2025-07-28T20:55:00+00:00
Episode link: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/catalysts-and-teams
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## Resource

This is a follow-up conversation with Emanuel Prinz about his book “What Actually Starts Movements.” I had some additional questions to ask, and I think you’ll enjoy these key insights about teams, insiders/outsiders, and funding. (Check out minute marks below for specific topics). Here is our previous conversation: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/what-actually-starts-movements Minute Marks APEST and Catalytic Teams 4:23 Outsiders vs Insiders 12:42 Where does the money come from? 19:56 Compassion ministry in Western contexts 23:31 * An example of a compassion ministry in Western contexts: Kintsugi Hope - https://www.kintsugihope.com/ Avoiding Reductionism 27:41 * Movement Servants https://www.catalyticleadership.info/post/39-who-can-start-a-movement This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit pheaney.substack.com

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