# Season 2, Ep. 11: A Conversation with Literacy Expert Jan Hasbrouck

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Podcast: [On the Road to Literacy Success](https://stenobird.com/podcast/on-the-road-to-literacy-success-6987289)
Published: 2026-01-23T01:03:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.goodhumanseducate.com/podcasts/on-the-road-to-literacy-success/episodes/2149155601
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Duration seconds: 2249

## Resource

In this conversation, Jan Hasbrouck shares practical, research-aligned insight on what strengthens literacy outcomes in real schools. She explains why explicit instruction remains essential, why many systems are overloaded with assessment, and how leaders can support clearer, more effective literacy implementation. Jan also clarifies what reading fluency actually is—accuracy and automaticity that protect comprehension, not just speed. This episode offers a grounded, doable lens for teachers and school leaders who want literacy instruction to be more cohesive, clear, and coherent. Want to grab the book Jan Hasbrouck spoke about? Grab it here: https://www.amazon.com/Reading-Fluenc... Want to grab Staci Bain’s new book? Grab it here: Empowered to Teach and Lead

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