# 219: Pat Benatar KNOWS Words, Music, Priorities, Perseverance, Curiosity & Creativity

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Podcast: [ON THE KNOWS with Randall Kenneth Jones](https://stenobird.com/podcast/on-the-knows-with-randall-kenneth-jones-752941)
Published: 2026-04-18T00:22:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2366

## Resource

In this heartfelt and wide-ranging episode of ON THE KNOWS with Randall Kenneth Jones, rock icon Pat Benatar joins Jones for an intimate, funny, and deeply reflective conversation about creativity, longevity, and the power of connection. Benatar dives into the mindset that has fueled her decades-long career. She shares how kindness, curiosity, and being fully present shaped her journey, including a formative early encounter with Jones that left a lasting impact on him. The conversation explores her transition into children’s literature, co-writing a book inspired by her grandchildren and a desire to help kids see themselves reflected in the world around them. Benatar reveals that her creative process, whether writing songs or books, stems from the same place: observation, rhythm, and emotional truth. Together, Benatar and Jones reflect on aging, purpose, and the urgency of time, with Benatar offering powerful insight into living intentionally in life’s “fourth quarter.” The episode also touches on her enduring partnership with husband and collaborator Neil Giraldo, her love of reading and introspection, and the balance between solitude and performing for thousands. By the end, this conversation becomes more than an interview—it’s a masterclass in creativity, resilience, and what it truly means to live a meaningful life. ON THE KNOWS with Randall Kenneth Jones is a long-form interview podcast featuring in-depth, personal conversations with celebrities, creators, and thought leaders. Known for its authenticity and emotional depth, the show explores what people know—about life, success, failure, and everything in between—through candid storytelling and genuine connection. Featured Quotes from Pat Benatar: • “Kindness is part of my DNA.” • “I won’t fight a fight I can’t wi…

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