# How to Save Our Democracy | Tim Heaphy, Jan 6 and Charlottesville Investigator

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Podcast: [On Offense with Kris Goldsmith](https://stenobird.com/podcast/on-offense-with-kris-goldsmith-7584514)
Published: 2026-05-06T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Former January 6 investigative counsel Tim Heaphy joins Kris Goldsmith for a difficult conversation about whether American democracy still works — and whether it can survive what’s happening now. Heaphy, a former U.S. Attorney and author of Harbingers and the forthcoming We Are the Answer: How to Save Our Democracy, helped lead major investigations into both the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally and the January 6 insurrection. But this interview isn’t about revisiting history. It’s about the present moment. Kris and Tim discuss the Trump administration’s indictments of former FBI Director James Comey and the Southern Poverty Law Center, the weaponization of the justice system, political violence, disinformation, institutional collapse, accountability, and whether Americans should still have faith in the systems meant to protect democracy. Throughout the conversation, Kris challenges Heaphy’s core belief that institutions can still function if enough people stay engaged. Can democracy be repaired? Or are we already past that point? Links: Buy We Are the Answer: How to Save Our Democracy by Tim Heaphy Subscribe to On Offense on Substack Support Task Force Butler Institute Support Veterans Fighting Fascism

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