# Sen. James Lankford on DHS, Markwayne Mullin and Why He Won’t Budge on the Filibuster

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Published: 2026-03-24T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this week’s On NOTUS, Sen. James Lankford of Oklahoma sits down with host Reese Gorman to talk about the status of the Department of Homeland Security funding negotiations, his colleague Markwayne Mullin’s nomination to run DHS and why voting to change the filibuster, even to pass bills he supports, would be like “handing my keys” to someone trying to steal his car. On NOTUS is a production of NOTUS, with marketing and production support from The Podglomerate. You can find more about NOTUS at ⁠notus.com/podcast⁠ and follow us @notusreports. NOTUS is a newsroom like no other: a mix of veteran reporters and editors working with some of the country’s most promising up-and-coming reporters — individuals from different regions, backgrounds and beliefs who have come to Washington as fellows at the Allbritton Journalism Institute. Together, we cover government and politics with the fresh eyes of newcomers and the expertise of veterans. We call it like we see it, no matter whose narrative it fits or how many clicks it will get.

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