# 🔑 Why Privacy Matters (Even if Google Knows Everything) — with Patricia Egger, Head of Security for Proton

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Podcast: [Off The Grid: Leaving Social Media](https://stenobird.com/podcast/off-the-grid-leaving-social-media-4989526)
Published: 2026-04-22T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://offthegrid.fun/shownotes/proton
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## Resource

We talk a lot about privacy at Off the Grid… but what does that actually mean in practice? Today I’m joined by Patricia Egger, Head of Security at my fave privacy-focused tech company Proton . Together, we have a non-technical-person-friendly conversation about: Why Proton insists on ‘privacy by default’ The difference between online privacy & security Why we love Proton Mail & want you to use it (affiliate link) What it actually means when emails/messages are encrypted Proton’s Born Private initiative (& how to claim a $1 email address for your kids) Why AI has major privacy problems RESOURCES + LINKS 👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit 🌐 Get on the Interweb waitlist for courses + community 💓 Join the Clubhouse for more episodes + emails 🙅‍♀️ I wanna help you leave Gmail with this workshop 👉 OPT OUT: 5 Steps to Break Up with Big Tech Today FREE GIFTS OF THE WEEK ❊ 10 Ways to Market Your Healing Business When Money & Time Are Scarce from Andie of Spiral Tending ❊ Simple Tech Stacks Field Guide from Heather of Small Business Rodeo ❊ Soulpreneur Corner from Julia Kyambi ❊ More free resources from Close Biz Friends! 🌟 Join COME TO CLASS — a 3-day intensive on how to teach online with confidence & care. Rescheduled for June 4th, 5th & 6th. Learn more & sign up here: https://softersounds.notion.site/come-to-class

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