# 🗒️ How to Plan Without Becoming a Perfectionist — with Lauren of Nine to Kind

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Podcast: [Off The Grid: Leaving Social Media](https://stenobird.com/podcast/off-the-grid-leaving-social-media-4989526)
Published: 2026-04-24T08:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://offthegrid.fun/shownotes/anti-perfectionist-planning
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## Resource

This is probably my fave conversation I’ve ever had with a therapist. Today Lauren Ruth Martin, LPC-MHSP is here to talk about the anti-perfectionist planners she created for her company Nine to Kind . We discuss: Why most planners force us into a productivity mindset How gentle scaffolding can help us plan without perfectionism The therapeutic exercises Lauren included in her planners Why we prefer DBT to CBT personally How to redistribute your f*cks — instead of trying to care less If you enjoy our conversation, make sure to explore Nine to Kind planners ! Get 50% off digital planners with code OFFTHEGRID50 & 25% off analog products with code OFFTHEGRID25. Learn more & claim your discount at: ninetokind.com/pages/offthegrid RESOURCES + LINKS 👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit 🌐 Get on the Interweb waitlist for courses + community 💓 Join the Clubhouse for more episodes + emails 💫 RSVP for the 2026 Astro & Biz Planning Summit FREE GIFTS OF THE WEEK ❊ 10 Ways to Market Your Healing Business When Money & Time Are Scarce from Andie of Spiral Tending ❊ Simple Tech Stacks Field Guide from Heather of Small Business Rodeo ❊ Soulpreneur Corner from Julia Kyambi ❊ More free resources from Close Biz Friends! 🌟 Join COME TO CLASS — a 3-day intensive on how to teach online with confidence & care. Rescheduled for June 4th, 5th & 6th. Learn more & sign up here: https://softersounds.notion.site/come-to-class

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